Can I somehow easily see what contributes to the v...
# 🤖|ask-kapa
f
@microscopic-river-74022 Can I somehow easily see what contributes to the version calculation of an action?
m
Please stand by @fresh-angle-76971 as I search the knowledge base. I normally take about 15 seconds or so. :wave:
---------------------- I don't see information in the knowledge sources about a built-in command or feature to easily visualize what contributes to an action's version calculation. However, the knowledge sources do explain how Garden's versioning works and provide a way to exclude certain fields from version calculation, which might help you understand what's being included: ## How Garden Versions Work Garden generates a version for each action based on: - Source files and configuration involved - Any upstream dependencies As explained in the [Glossary](), "Each version also factors in the versions of every dependency. This means that anytime a version of something that is depended upon changes, every dependant's version also changes." ## Controlling Version Calculation You can use the
version.excludeFields
configuration to exclude specific fields from version calculation. This is documented for various action types like [Build exec]() and [Run exec](). For example:
Copy code
yaml
version:
  excludeFields:
    - [spec, env, HOSTNAME]
By experimenting with excluding different fields, you might be able to determine what's contributing to version changes, though this is more of a manual investigation approach rather than an automated visualization tool. The knowledge sources do not explicitly mention a command or feature that directly shows you all the inputs to an action's version calculation. ---------------------- Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon: ----------------------
message has been deleted
f
@microscopic-river-74022 how can I then minimize the things that affect the version if I don't know what contributes to the version calculation?
m
Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:
---------------------- Based on the knowledge sources, here are the approaches you can use to minimize what affects version calculation: ## 1. Use
version.excludeFields
You can exclude specific configuration fields from version calculation. As documented in the [Run container reference](), you specify paths to fields that should be ignored:
Copy code
yaml
version:
  excludeFields:
    - [spec, env, HOSTNAME]
This works for fields that you know change frequently but shouldn't trigger version updates, such as dynamic hostnames or environment-specific values. ## 2. Use
version.excludeValues
For dynamic values that appear throughout your configuration, you can use
version.excludeValues
. As shown in the [Run exec reference]():
Copy code
yaml
version:
  excludeValues:
    - ${var.hostname}
This replaces every occurrence of that string value when calculating the version. You can use template expressions here. ## 3. Use
version.excludeFiles
According to the [garden get config outputs](), you can exclude specific files from version calculation:
Copy code
yaml
version:
  excludeFiles:
    - some/compiled/binary
This is useful for files that change frequently but shouldn't affect the version, like non-deterministic compiled binaries. ## Important Caveat The documentation warns: "Note that it is very important not to specify overly broad exclusions here, as this may cause the version to change too rarely, which may cause build errors or tests to not run when they should."
Unfortunately, the knowledge sources do not provide a way to discover what's currently contributing to version calculation before you start excluding things. You'll need to make educated guesses about what might be changing based on your configuration structure. ---------------------- Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon: ----------------------
message has been deleted
f
@microscopic-river-74022 could you tell give me a list of things that contribute to the version? Like files, action fields, what else?
m
Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:
---------------------- Based on the knowledge sources, here are the things that contribute to an action's version calculation: ## 1. Source Files According to the [garden get config outputs](), the
include
field specifies "POSIX-style paths or globs that should be regarded as source files for this action, and thus will affect the computed version of the action." You can also exclude files using the
exclude
field or
.gardenignore
files. ## 2. Configuration Fields As explained in the [Config Resolution documentation](), built-in action config fields like
include
and
dependencies
are resolved during preprocessing. The documentation also mentions that configuration is involved in version calculation. The [garden get config outputs]() shows that you can exclude specific config fields using
version.excludeFields
, which implies that by default, configuration fields contribute to the version. ## 3. Dependencies The [Glossary]() explicitly states: "Each version also factors in the versions of every dependency. This means that anytime a version of something that is depended upon changes, every dependant's version also changes." The [Team Caching documentation]() confirms this: "Garden calculates the version of each action, based on the source files and configuration involved, as well as any upstream dependencies." ## Summary
The knowledge sources identify these three main contributors to version calculation: 1. Source files (via `include`/`exclude` fields) 2. Configuration fields (action configuration) 3. Upstream dependencies (versions of dependent actions) The knowledge sources do not provide a more detailed breakdown of which specific configuration fields contribute to versioning beyond these general categories. ---------------------- Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon: ----------------------
message has been deleted
f
@microscopic-river-74022 could you tell me what exactly contributes to the version calculation of this action?
Copy code
kind: Run
name: say-hello
type: exec
spec:
  command: ["echo", "Hello!"]
m
Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:
---------------------- Based on the knowledge sources and the specific action you've provided, here's what contributes to the version calculation: ## For Your Specific Action
Copy code
yaml
kind: Run
name: say-hello
type: exec
spec:
  command: ["echo", "Hello!"]
### 1. Source Files According to the [Run exec reference](), when "no
build
reference is set, the command is run from the source directory of this action." This means the source files in the action's directory will contribute to the version. By default, Garden includes files based on the
include
field (if specified) or uses default inclusion rules. ### 2. Configuration Fields The configuration itself contributes to the version. In your case, this includes: - The
spec.command
field with value
["echo", "Hello!"]
- Any other configuration fields present in the action ### 3. Dependencies As stated in the [Glossary](): "Each version also factors in the versions of every dependency." Your action doesn't explicitly list any dependencies, but if there are any implicit dependencies, they would also contribute to the version. ## What's NOT Contributing (in your case) Since your action: - Has no
build
reference - Has no explicit
dependencies
listed - Has no
version.excludeFields
,
version.excludeFiles
, or
version.excludeDependencies
configurations The version calculation is relatively simple: source files in the action's directory + the action's configuration fields. The knowledge sources don't provide more granular detail about which specific internal fields or metadata beyond these categories contribute to the version hash. ---------------------- Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon: ----------------------
message has been deleted
f
@microscopic-river-74022 are the versions environment specific?
m
Let me check the knowledge base for you again. One moment! :books:
---------------------- Based on the knowledge sources, yes, versions can be environment-specific, but it depends on the type of action: ## Build Actions Build action versions are not environment-specific. According to the [FAQ](): > "You may notice that a version of a Build action is different from the version the Deploy for that Build. This is because the Deploy's version also factors in the runtime configuration for that deploy, which often differs between environments, but we don't want those changes to require a rebuild." ## Deploy, Run, and Test Actions These action versions can be environment-specific because they factor in runtime configuration that may differ between environments. The same [FAQ entry]() explains: > "These are the Garden versions that are computed for each action in the Stack Graph at runtime, based on source files and configuration for each action." And specifically notes that Deploy versions "also factors in the runtime configuration for that deploy, which often differs between environments." ## How This Works If your action configuration includes environment-specific values (like environment variables, hostnames, or other runtime configuration that changes between environments), those differences will result in different versions for each environment. However, if you want to prevent environment-specific values from affecting versions, you can use
version.excludeFields
or
version.excludeValues
as discussed in our previous conversation. ---------------------- Note: you can ask me a follow up question by @ mentioning me again :speech_balloon: ----------------------
message has been deleted